This chapter describes different forms of Inscription research. It includes lists of discoverable glyphs. In this chapter:

Archive Comments about Research

Below are readers' comments about "Research":

No discovery of a Minor Glyph!!?!

  1. skaarak, October 2008:

    So this morning I did the discovery of a Minor Glyph and I got a Weapon Vellium (woo....) but then no discovery. I had read that you always discover a new one until there are no more, but it didn't seem to do that for me this morning. I only have 4 minor glyphs so I found it quite annoying not to get another one.
    Any one else run into this?

  2. Kuradora, October 2008:

    I got the same thing last night, only with a scroll of strength or some such. I didn't get a discovery either, that I saw. Could it be that the discovery doesn't show up like it does for alch? Maybe it's still bugged, either in the way it works or in the way it shows a readout for the discovery.

  3. Gummo, October 2008:

    See this topic; you apparently can't discover glyphs that you can't make, so if you've discovered all the glyphs available at your skill level, you won't find any more until you raise your skill and higher-level glyphs become discoverable.

  1. skaarak, October 2008:

    Well, seeing as my Inscription skill is 365, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a minor inscription I cannot make (ATM).

  2. el, October 2008:

    There are a few reports of discoveries not being made, and with 365 skill, you should have 2 months of discoveries to make. Unfortunately, there are so many little glitches in 3.0.2, it is difficult to know if failure is intended. Certainly the vast majority of research is discovering something.

  3. Yoco, October 2008:

    I doubt it makes a difference, but out of curiosity: were you in a Raid Group when you did the minor research that didn't teach you anything?

  4. skaarak, October 2008:

    Not in any group. No. It was about 5:30am on a MST server (on Tuesday I think). I was in Undercity. My AddOn's are in the 80%+ working category, but there could be some weirdness there.

  5. Nils, November 2008:

    Just an FYI in case anyone wants to keep statistics to look for a trend.

    For fun-and-games, I have a lvl 5, skill 75 Scribe and a lvl 70, skill 365 Scribe. Thus far, my level 5 Scribe has discovered 22 minor glyphs, and attempted to learn the 23rd and final allowable minor glyph, "Bear Cub" but instead made a scroll of recall, and no discovery.

    I was figuring that this toon would only learn glyphs requiring skill lvl 75 or lower, which limits to those glyphs using Midnight Ink - all other 22 glyphs requiring Midnight Ink have been discoverd by this toon.

    This is the first time with either toon I have not made a discovery.

  6. el, November 2008:

    We think Glyph of the Bear Cub was bugged, and could not be discovered on live realms by any means. I'm hoping that was fixed by patch 3.0.3 - but I have not seen one yet.

  7. Hobbes, December 2008:

    I can verify this. Today I got no discovery out of Minor Inscription Research. I had all of the listed minor glyphs (from: http://www.elsprofessions.com/inscription/minor_research.html ) with the exception of Bear Cub.

  8. jetah, January 2009:

    OK, i hoped on the test server (3.0.8) and decided to check minor research. and -YES- i got a new minor. it was a glyph of blast wave. it uses 1 ink of the sea and 1 resilient parchment.

    so this will be very interesting to say the least.

  9. el, January 2009:

    Interesting, indeed.

    There are a few new glyph spells in the game files (Blast Wave, Thunderstorm, Focus, and Typhoon). If they are all minors it should be possible to discover them all on the test realms with a character that has already discovered every minor available in the live game (which should have happened for anyone making a discovery each day since patch 3.0.2).

  10. Thay, January 2009:

    I've got my scribe (who has all live minors) over on the PTR, so far he's discovered Thunderstorm and Blastwave.
    The new minor's so far are all ink of the sea minor's.

    Edit: 20hrs later - Discover Glyph of Typhoon

  11. Thay, January 2009:

    and now Glyph of Focus. So tomorrow will be interesting.
    Althou i'm expecting no glyph to be found

  12. el, January 2009:

    Thanks. I've confirmed all 4 new minors on the PTR.

  13. Sleett, March 2009:

    I spoke with a GM last night, you learn new recipies everyday up to a point, then its random chance that you will learn a recipie each day

    if you read the text on the research it states

    "creates a random scroll in an effort to discovery new minor glyph recipies"

    and

    "compiles your experiences from the day, creating an random assortment of inscribed works. you are very likely to discover new major glyph recipies this way"

    these are not guarenteed combines for recipes, it just starts out that way and gets worse one day

    took me a month to get another minor once I stopped getting them once a day, and its been 2 weeks for majors and I know im missing at least 4 recipies.

PTR 3.1

  1. jetah, February 2009:

    logged in (w/o addons, which suck) and did my research...

    and nothing.

    anyone get any discoverys while doing research on the PTR?

  2. el, February 2009:

    Agreed. Nothing new discovered so far.

    Worth adding that in the first PTR build, most of the widely reported "new glyphs" were only known to the game client as simple spells: There were no glyph properties set in the data files, so they could not be used as glyphs. In essence, this is still work in progress by the developers.

  3. Growler, March 2009:

    Does anyone else see this patch and dual specs in particular as a bad thing for us scribes? With people being able to switch specs easily that means the demand for glyphs on respecs has just gone. I was hoping that this summonable Lexicon might be decent compensation but it seems that's never going to be implemented.

  1. Sleett, March 2009:

    supposidly the recipies are bought outside of uldar

  2. el, March 2009:

    I don't see any vendor on the EU English PTR. Perhaps a temporary vendor was added; very briefly?

  3. leonal.ee, March 2009:

    In response to Growler's question, I think Dual spec is going to be a huge boon in the short term. Every level 80's got to double up? That's HUGE! Hopefully dual spec will lead to a lot more experimentation which should be good long term business, but it could backfire in the way Growler has mentioned, so we'll have to see. In our favor, it looks like Blizzard has some more glyphs and changes to existing glyphs in the works, so that should encourage some turnover, too. I am cautiosly optimistic.

    Happy scribing!!

    Leonal

  4. Thay, March 2009:

    Okay, althou it just a 'spell at the moment, anyone heard anymore about the
    Book of Glyph Mastery?
    http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=64323

  5. bluspacecow, March 2009:

    Thay wrote:

    Okay, althou it just a 'spell at the moment, anyone heard anymore about the
    Book of Glyph Mastery?
    http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=64323

    From the latest patch notes Thay ,

    "Added around 50 new glyph recipes. These new recipes can be obtained from Books of Glyph Mastery found as world drops on Northrend monsters. Reading a Book of Glyph Mastery randomly discovers one of the newly-added recipes."

    Oh great. Its that Heavy Frostweave bandage book thing all over again. 50 Times !!!!!

  6. Thay, March 2009:

    bluspacecow wrote:

    Thay wrote:

    Okay, althou it just a 'spell at the moment, anyone heard anymore about the
    Book of Glyph Mastery?
    http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=64323

    From the latest patch notes Thay ,
    "Added around 50 new glyph recipes. These new recipes can be obtained from Books of Glyph Mastery found as world drops on Northrend monsters. Reading a Book of Glyph Mastery randomly discovers one of the newly-added recipes."
    Oh great. Its that Heavy Frostweave bandage book thing all over again. 50 Times !!!!!

    I saw that. Should make things interesting.
    Whilst the random learning allows each book be of use, it makes it hard if you are wanted to learn a specific Glyph.
    Still as I currently have every Glyph in the game at 70, It was too be expected.

  7. el, March 2009:

    So far I've spent hours farming trying to get one of these items to drop. Conclusion: New glyphs are going to be genuinely rare for a while...

  8. North, March 2009:

    Any idea if the books drop for non-scribes? I'm hoping the AH won't be an option, or else it becomes another dice roll like Nobles cards (ie, money going to the AH seller and the scribe left with random luck on glyph discovery - not unlike using considerable mats and getting a non-Nobles card).

  9. Zim, March 2009:

    I liked this idea, Its a move like patterns drop.
    This will take luck or money, but It can provide you with some exclusivity you don´t see now.

    Zim.
    On patch day I will logoff in Silverbrook, Grizzly Hills... patch and login planning to stay until I get my hands on Rituals of the New Moon!

  10. el, March 2009:

    I guess they expect few people to farm it on patch day: On the PTR, I needed to clear the entire camp several times before it dropped. With more than a few people farming, it will become impossible.

  11. Zhivago, March 2009:

    Logged on to the PTR late last night (like 4am EST). The Inscription Trainer had recipes for me to train. Northrend Inscription Research allowed the discovery of a Glyph. Minor Inscription did not. Sorry for no screenies, wasn't even thinking since it was late.

  12. Tayluca, April 2009:

    Zhivago wrote:

    Logged on to the PTR late last night (like 4am EST). The Inscription Trainer had recipes for me to train. Northrend Inscription Research allowed the discovery of a Glyph. Minor Inscription did not. Sorry for no screenies, wasn't even thinking since it was late.

    I am maxed Scribe and have all recipes prior to patch. As of Build 9757, the trainer had no new recipes for me to learn nor did I gain any new recipes via Minor nor Major Research. The vendor had recipes upon original release of PTR (forget which ones), one or two I believe, but nothing since then. Perhaps the trainable ones you learned were from then?

    I did notice a categorization change, where the shoulder glyphs are in your recipe book, they have moved Northrend Inscription there under the "Inscribe" category.

  13. North, April 2009:

    So how is inscription post-patch working out for people?

    I still think this design is a mistake. Right now non-scribes are probably making more than the average scribe by selling Glyph Mastery books at outrageous prices. We're then left learning a random glyph which may make our money back or...not. And really, right now is the only time to hit it big by learning an important glyph before others. And with dual-specs now in-play, the turn-over is going to be slim.

    Meanwhile book prices will drop over the next several weeks and eventually everyone will know the full glyph list. Blerg.

    Thoughts?

Minor Reseach List

  1. NiceBloke, October 2008:

    Power leveling Inscription showed me that all the trained Glyphs are Major - you have to research the minor ones. So, in the interest of seeing if there are any really rare research glyphs:

    So far I have learned the following Minor glyphs:

    1] Glyph of Sense Undead - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43368
    2] Glyph of Mend Pet - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43350
    3] Glyph of Unending Breath - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43389
    4] Glyph of Aquatic Form - http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43316
    5] Glyph of Shadowfiend - http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43374
    6]

  2. el, October 2008:

    For reference, I've added a list of all known Minor glyph research.

    If the price of minor glyphs is still reasonable on your server, consider rolling an alt, just to learn Inscription up to skill 75, which can then discover minor glyphs.

  3. Knobby, October 2008:

    Thinking that the real money would be in Minor Glyphs, at least initially, I made sure that I leveled 5 alts that had been sitting around to Lvl 15 + before the patch hit. I got them straight upto level 75 Inscribing and had them all research. I thought I was a bit unlucky with getting two repeat discoveries on the second day - ie two toons with same discovery. I was distraught yesterday (5th round) with 5 of my 6 discoveries being repeats, so I took a look at what they had all learned.

    I had 17 of the 21 discoveries using Midnight Ink, 1 of the 13 using Lions, 1 of the 10 using Celestial and none of the higher Ink Discoveries. I then thought that these higher level ink using discoveries might have a rarer discovery chance.

    CLUNK !

    What if lower level inscribers can only discover lower level glyphs ?!? Sure enough, my max level inscriber had the only two higher ink discoveries. All the 75ish alts had Midnight only discoveries.

    Yesterday I leveled two of the alts to experience level 20 and Expert Inscription. This morning one of them discovered a Lions recipe while the others didn't (not conclusive but validating). It may be that the discovery 'Roll Book' may be determined by ability to make the ink or something other than rank

    Points to make :-

    1) Higher Ink level inscriptions will be rarer as the leveling inscribers will not discover them until later on. AH prices and availability reflect this on my server.

    2) It is worth not using a discovery in the leveling process if you are power leveling. Do it once you hit max if only an hour or two away. You have a chance to make a rarer more valuable discovery.

    Anyone got any points of reference with the higher ink discoveries ? (ie a Jadefire at level 136 inscription etc).

    I hope this isn't a widely known thing and I'm just re-hacking past work.

    Thanks to this site I made 15k gold on the first day (Penguin ftw!) and have 35k gold now 5 days in. Where do I send your commission ?!

  1. Yoco, October 2008:

    Knobby wrote:

    T...
    What if lower level inscribers can only discover lower level glyphs ?!?...

    Yeps, that's the case.

    On the PTR my scribe ran minor inscription research when the cooldown was still bugged (presumably on purpose to allow testing) - you could reset the cooldown by zoning (hopping in to or out of Rage Fire Chasm worked great). At one point the research stopped: doing the research no longer taught me new recipes. After I leveled up inscription a few levels more, it started giving recipes again. Conclusion: Minor Inscription Research gives you a random minor glyph recipe that (a) you haven't discovered before and (b) that you can make at your inscription level. Currently you can check wowhead to find out what the minor glyph recipe levels are. (El: consider adding those levels here on this site too, maybe?)

    Lesson: want to discover a particular skill level 80 glyph? Your best chance to discover it is from skill levels 80 to 84. Before 80 you cannot discover it. From 85 onward there are more recipes available for discovery, lowering your chance to get the level 80 one.

  2. Knobby, October 2008:

    Discovery levels for the minors.

    Midnight/Light at 75
    Lions/Light at 100
    Lions/Common at 125
    Jadefire/Common at 150
    Celestial/Common at 200
    Ethereal/Resilient at 325

    They are all orange/yellow/green for 5 Levels from their discovery point.

    Optimum level for number of discoveries v cost is 150. You will only be out of play on 2 discoveries (Safe Fall and Enduring Victory)

  3. el, October 2008:

    Agreed. Great insights.

    The only discovery I'm having trouble confirming is Glyph of the Bear Cub. I've added it at skill 75 based on reagents only.

    Glyph of Levitate does not fit the pattern - available at 175, yet uses Jadefire/Common.

  4. Dpartd, November 2008:

    Does anyone have a spreadsheet with all of the researched Minor Glyphs and Major Glyphs currently available in game?

    I tried to copy and paste from El's website to an excel spreadsheet, but it doesn't come out very pretty :)

  5. Nightwalkr, December 2008:

    Hi Dpartd,

    I tried this with a Google Docs spreadsheet and it seems to work quite well. You just paste the function:

    =ImportHTML("http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/minor-reseach-list", "table", 1)

    into a cell in the spreadsheet and it creates a "live" area in your spreadsheet that will be updated anytime the table on source page is updated. (The third argument with a value of 1 is an index to which table on the source page you want to link...it's 1-based so a 1 means the first table).

    You can then export an .xls file of this spreadsheet to Excel...the excel spreadsheet won't be "live".

    It would be nice if this table had a column for Class and maybe for the level of the inscription.

    Nightwalkr

How to track known Minor Inscriptions?

  1. Jon Do, October 2008:

    Hello.

    Thanks El for the guide! I skilled Inscription to 350 on patch release day (couldn't get on until 8pm and was 350 by 2am). I only cut it close one place - my very last ink dinged 300 skill, then it was gravy.

    My issue:

    I have now discovered four Minor Glyphs. My problem is that they are just thrown in with the Major Glyphs and I have to manually track them.

    Any suggestions on how to separate or identify or distinguish the Minor Glyphs from the Major in the UI?

  2. Pithian, October 2008:

    I am having the same problem too. I am going to post this on the Blizzard forums. Maybe if enough of us do this, Blizzard may think about adding a drop down in the Inscription trade skill window that only shows <Class> in in tab and <Major/Minor/Created> in the other. That would help quite a lot for me.

  3. Yoco, October 2008:

    Pithian wrote:

    I am having the same problem too. I am going to post this on the Blizzard forums. Maybe if enough of us do this, Blizzard may think about adding a drop down in the Inscription trade skill window that only shows <Class> in in tab and <Major/Minor/Created> in the other. That would help quite a lot for me.

    Good suggestion indeed. Figuring out a full list of which minors I have discovered, or to answer questions like "what minor shaman glyphs can you make?" is quite time consuming right now. And making that second dropdown in the interface actually useful would be welcome.

  1. Dark, October 2011:

    The glyph of Mirror Image is taught by the Book of Glyph Mastery, not Minor Inscription Research.

  2. el, October 2011:

    Fixed, thanks.

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