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[Inscription] Herb amounts

  1. Dacean <Member>, 3 years ago:

    Hi El!

    Your guide is looking great so far.

    I was just wondering about how many stacks of each herb level you used.

    I have quite a few herbs saved up, just want an idea of how many it burns.

  2. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 3 years ago:

    Milling averages 2.5 Pomace per 5 herbs. 1 Pomace makes 1 Ink, and a typical inscribed item uses 1 ink. So each item made requires an average of 2 herbs. However, making inks will often give a skill-up, and the ink can then be used to make another item that gives a skill-up: Each pair of herbs might give 2 skill-ups. Ivory/Silver Inks use 1 herb per Ink direct, but everything made by those inks requires 2 inks, so the result is similar.

    Since the most efficient skill-up recipes often go yellow or green (especially inks), the result is between 1 and 1.5 herbs per Inscription skill-up, probably closer to 1.5. Still, that's only around 7 stacks of herbs per 100 skill points. To put it in context, if you level Herbalism and Inscription at the same time, you will have herbs to spare.

    That's just a rough first calculation. More detail will follow once the profession is fully implemented.

    • Character: El (EU-Ravenholdt).

  3. Dacean <Member>, 3 years ago:

    A lot less than I thought it would be. I have dozens of stacks for each herb level.

    I guess I will be making some serious cash come release. :)

    Thanks for the quick reply.

  4. vchan000 <Member>, 3 years ago:

    My herbalist just copied over so I've been experimenting with this so I know exactly what I should be farming for live when it comes out. My numbers so far;

    Totals: 270 herbs (silverleaf, peacebloom, earthroot, mageroyal), 77 light parchment (bought) [total current skill: 119]

    20 silver ink = 20 silverleaf
    20 ivory ink = 20 peacebloom [skill 1-34]

    114 Alabaster Pomace = 230 milled herbs

    114 Moonglow Ink = 114 Alabaster Pomace [skill 35-60]

    40 Bleached parchment = 40 moonglow ink, 40 light parchment [skill 61-90]

    37 mysterious tarot = 74 moonglow ink, 37 light parchment [skill 91-119]

    *In 37 tarot I managed to create 2 ace of rogues cards

    **Please note, I'm looking for the most efficient way to level the profession, so several recipes have been skipped in this progress, including the scroll of recall, which is very neat in and of itself. I have every intentions of going back and making some with extras out of the levelling run.

  5. Blazara <Member>, 3 years ago:

    Guide looks great, hope it continues <3

    But i was wondering, how much of each herb do you think we'd actually need?

    As you say all the following herb's can be used to make Alabaster Pomace;

    * Bloodthistle
    * Earthroot
    * Mageroyal
    * Peacebloom
    * Silverleaf

    With cost saving (If i'm too lazy to farm)or simple time saving (farming in one area) in mind, would it be simpler to just farm/buy the lower 3 of the 5 (Silverleaf, Peacebloom and Earthroot) and use them for the Pomace, or do the higher ones have a better proc rate for creating 3 ?

    Just curios, as it could save a lot of gold and time, buying the lowest of the groups for each ink, if there is no difference.

  6. vchan000 <Member>, 3 years ago:

    I didn't see any difference in the amount of procs for the low level herbs vs the higher level ones, but I wasn't specifically looking for it either. I'll break down further bouts of milling into how many I get for each type of herb to see if there's a trend.

    Of the 230 herbs milled in the above batch, I believe it broke down to something like 140 peacebloom, 30 silverleaf, 25 earthroot and 35 mageroyal. Just remember when stocking up on herbs for milling, do it in lots of 5 of the same herb. 5 silverleaf is millable. 3 silverleaf, 1 earthroot and 1 mageroyal is not.

  7. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 3 years ago:

    I agree. As far as I can tell, each stack of 5 herbs averages 2.5 of the appropriate Pomace... and that's as complex as it gets.

    If that remains, Inscribers will always be looking to buy the cheapest herbs in each bracket (set of herbs producing each Pomace).

    This should create an interesting market dynamic with Alchemy: Assume Alchemists continue to need specific herbs, and the overall amount of herb gathering increases to supply the 2 professions. The traditionally "cheap" herbs will increase in value, while the traditionally expensive herbs decrease in value. The spread of (auction house) prices at each level will get narrower, so it becomes less important whether Herbalists can find rare herb nodes: The game will reward the act of gathering more evenly.

    • Character: El (EU-Ravenholdt).

  8. Blazara <Member>, 3 years ago:

    Aha, thank you then.
    Time to start farming the lower ones ;]]

  9. Gummo <Moderator>, 3 years ago:

    To tie this in with fishing, I wonder if this will get Blizzard to remove the "school of fish" that can be fished for peacebloom above Northshire Valley.

  10. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 3 years ago:

    I suspect this screenshot on the official site shows someone fishing from the infamous School of Fish. I guess that would make it an officially recognised feature...

    The effort required to get there probably doesn't warrant the (reported) infinite supply of Peacebloom gained: A couple of loops round any of the starting zones will give enough herbs to get started on Inscription.

    Assuming even volumes of herbs for each skill point, the hardest part of the Inscription levelling curve is logically from higher-level pre-Outland zones: Herbs there are well spread out, but you cannot use a flying mount to collect them quickly.

    • Character: El (EU-Ravenholdt).

  11. Dacean <Member>, 3 years ago:


    Assuming even volumes of herbs for each skill point, the hardest part of the Inscription levelling curve is logically from higher-level pre-Outland zones: Herbs there are well spread out, but you cannot use a flying mount to collect them quickly.

    This is true for most of the high level pre-bc herbs, but not all. I just make a Hellfire Penn. run frequently. Along with a couple stacks of Felweed and a few Dreaming Glory I usually get half a stack of Mountain Silversage, Dreamfoil and Golden Sansam each.

  12. britt88 <Member>, 3 years ago:

    Thanks so much for the guide! It's looking great! I'm saving 15 stacks of each herb to ower level this prof. Any more advice .. keep it coming!

    P.S if the lovely pally who pointed me to this site uses it, Thanks so much!

  13. Arbaah <Member>, 3 years ago:

    As you decide how many herbs you are going to store (and what you may buy to level Inscriptions after WotLK is released) - keep in mind:

    Because Alchemy Mastery will give a 30% bonus to all potions, I suspect many people will use Alchemy as one of the professions for their DeathKnights (the other profession will be Rune Forging). SO - this means there are gonna be a LOT of DKs leveling Alchemy -- and that could have a serious impact on the market (i.e., herbs in demand, potions/flasks/elixirs under foot everywhere!!).

    Frankly - I already have a 2nd Mule, with her own guild and 2 tabs (so far) in the Guild Vault. And it's about 2/3 full of herbs already. And YES - I am stocking Peacebloom, Silverleaf, Mage Royal, Stranglekelp, etc. - along with herbs all-the-way up the Alchemy chain. And YES - I have been buying most of them (buy the herbs when they are cheap - spend the on-line time doing dailies -- much more productive use of time).

    I expect to be power-leveling both Inscriptions on my main and Alchemy on my DK - so I'm gonna use up a lot of herbs - QUICK. And besides -- if demand is up -- I can sell what I don't use ... at a profit.

    • Character: Arbaah (US-Icecrown).

  14. Sypin <Member>, 3 years ago:

    Runeforging is not a profession, it's a class skill. So DKs will still be able to have 2 other professions.

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