http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/tags/inscription Discussion about professions in World of Warcraft. en-US Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:40:19 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.3 q http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/how-to-track-known-minor-inscriptions#post-427 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:45:45 +0000 el 427@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Fixed, thanks. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/how-to-track-known-minor-inscriptions#post-426 Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:57:30 +0000 Dark 426@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>The glyph of Mirror Image is taught by the Book of Glyph Mastery, not Minor Inscription Research. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-390 Tue, 28 Dec 2010 20:15:52 +0000 Reynn 390@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p><cite>North <a href="http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-388" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>So what are the impressions of Inscription so far in Cata? </p></blockquote> <p>Basically I've made a few relics/off hands for myself, alts and friends/guildies. They aren't selling since they aren't anywhere near BIS and the mats are prohibitive compared to the effort needed to get the alternatives.</p> <p>I've made enough cards for my own volcano deck, but the extras aren't selling well. Worse, the prices for those that do sell are plummeting. I managed to sell a few at 2k, but now prices are quickly dropping to a bit more than 1k. I was lucky so I only have about 10 extras after getting my deck.</p> <p>Honestly, the best money maker right now is selling the inks. But even that isn't as good as just selling the herbs!</p> <p>The "permanent" glyphs in Cata really undercut 90% of the reason that inscription is a profession. Kinda wondering how long I'll keep it unless they make it suck a bit less. /shrug </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-388 Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:05:34 +0000 North 388@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>So what are the impressions of Inscription so far in Cata? </p> <p>I made good money from Darkmoon cards (Nobles) soon after WotLK released, but the cards are not selling as well this xpac. This is likely because the BiS trinkets are easily obtained from other sources. </p> <p>I find this similar with the OH items / relics, and although I have sold the blue items I crafted while leveling inscription, the basic mats that generated them would probably have netted me more in the current econ.</p> <p>I'm interested to hear other's experiences. I'm not interested in micromanaging large volumes of glyphs on AH, so am I sunk in regards to cashflow this xpac? </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-370 Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:47:45 +0000 Hagu 370@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Thanks for everything in general as well as the above reply in particular.</p> <p>Re "4.0.1 is absolutely riddled with bugs at the moment. I'd be surprised to see it on live realms so soon." - I was working off the MMOC Nov 2 date. Today's Amazon date seems more credible at the moment.</p> <p>So prior to 4.0.1 we need whatever stockpiled we want, dump soon-to-be charred glyphs</p> <p>during 4.0.1 there is little to no new recipes to train? Just selling transformed glyphs, new cookie cutter glyphs and filling up completionists' glyph books. </p> <p>cata day: train, learn new glyphs, sell to goblins/worgens levelers</p> <p>cata plus a month or so: a pretty small part of inscription sales is glyphs would be my guess</p> <p>Thanks again. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-369 Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:27:29 +0000 el 369@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>4.0.1 is absolutely riddled with bugs at the moment. I'd be surprised to see it on live realms so soon.</p> <p>Training above 450 requires the Cataclysm expansion. There are only a couple of genuinely new recipes on the PTR - all below 450, using existing inks. The big changes are to existing recipes - the glyphs themselves and the volume of ink needed.</p> <p>Vellums appear (from the data) to either automatically convert to the new vellum, or become "Ruined Vellum", which has a "Use: Restore to a useable Enchanting Vellum." So it looks like no vellum will be lost - you may just have a lot of clicking to do. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-368 Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:38:12 +0000 Hagu 368@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>In 10 (or 3 or 17 ...) days, 4.0.1 will hit. I am confused.</p> <p>In the "month" between 4.0.1 and cata, is your current-best-guess-subject-to-change:</p> <p>We can train our max prof level to 525, we can learn to make, for example, the scrolls, but we can not make any because the ink cant be made cause the herbs are not yet in the game?</p> <p>Does and armor vellum I, II and III all transform 1-to-1 into the new vellum when 4.0.1 hits? </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-367 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:00:59 +0000 el 367@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>One possibility is that Book of Glyph Mastery will also drop in Cataclysm zones. This is logical for 2 reasons:</p> <ol> <li>There will be less (player) activity in Northrend, so fewer books would end up in circulation, forcing people to farm Northerend mobs, which is precisely what new expansions never encourage - they'd much rather you were in new zones.</li> <li>The number of glyphs has fallen slightly, and shows no sign of increasing. I listed a few specific glyphs that have been removed (technically Charred) <a href="http://www.elsprofessions.com/inscription/cataclysm.html#glyph_conversion">here</a>. Where new glyphs have been added, they are conversions of old glyphs**.</li> </ol> <p>(I will try and post a full list of glyph conversions later, but the data is still very buggy, and sometimes the recipe names don't match the name of the glyph made, which makes it hard to be sure what is bugged and what is intended.)</p> <p>(** Normally there is no change to training method - the main exception is where the type of the glyph has changed - for example, a major glyph that has become a minor, may now be learnt from Minor Research, not a trainer, and vice versa.) </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-366 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:04:26 +0000 Tayluca 366@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Thank you El and Yoco. I was not extended a beta invitation this time around so I'm even more grateful for this site and other's like it. I've enjoyed reading all of the updates you've all been posting very much. Thanks for your hard work! </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-365 Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:14:21 +0000 Yoco 365@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Due to bugs I lost all my recipes before even being able to use my inscription skill for the first time, and I assume the same is true for many other scribes on the beta.</p> <p>Using northern and minor inscription research taught me recipes, but those were recipes my live character already knows, not truly 'new' recipes. I have no idea if those forms of research, or the glyph mastery books, will teach new recipes, but testing that may take a long time. I did notice that some glyphs are mentioned in the new glyph tab of the talent window that I haven't seen a recipe for yet (and are not taught by the trainer).</p> <p>I haven't seens any 'new' kind of research or books yet. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-364 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:49:13 +0000 el 364@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>So far, everything we know about is trainable. However, there are no new glyphs yet, and only very minor changes to pre-Cataclysm Inscription. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-363 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:20:07 +0000 Tayluca 363@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>In regards to training new recipes, can anyone confirm how we will learn the new recipes? i.e All of them from the profession trainers, book of glyph mastery or maybe a new type of mastery book in the xpac, drops from instances, etc? So far all I've seen is info from the profession trainers. Should I be stocking up on book of glyph mastery despite having all current recipes just in case? </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-353 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:20:30 +0000 el 353@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>This is going to be interesting for a couple of reasons:</p> <p>Many of the features that we originally thought would go into Inscription appear to be going into Archaeology instead. So I doubt there will be anything radically new in Cataclysm Inscription.</p> <p>Glyphs have never been tiered. There's no progression from a lesser stat to a better stat - each glyph does something entirely unique, and most scale with spells anyway - a glyph "gets better" because your other gear got better. While new/changed spells and abilities will occur in Cataclysm, it is hard to see how there will suddenly be hundreds of new glyphs added. Unless large numbers of old glyphs are retained in spite of having no purpose (like the Warlock <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/item=43394" title="Wowhead - Glyph of Souls." class="nocolor">Glyph of Souls</a> - a spell for which mana is irrelvant, because it isn't used in combat).</p> <p>Inscription was poorly balanced relative to the rest of the economy. Not only the low demand for glyphs compared to the ease of making them. But also the way Old Azeroth herbs were just as likely to be required for a "good" glyph as Northrend herbs. Lack of flight in Old Azeroth meant that auction prices for low-level herbs could be higher than Northrend-level herbs, which never fitted the logic of the rest of the game. The Ink Trader leveled prices, but ultimately just diluted the herb economy, by making all herbs rather similar (for Scribes, at least). That could be addressed in Cataclysm, which is logically a good opportunity to rework pre-expansion elements of professions.</p> <p>Lastly, the role of a minor glyphs could be reviewed. I know for a Warlock, it's a real struggle to fill 3 slots with anything that even sounds like it might be useful. In contrast to (depending on spec' and role), some major glyphs we are more-or-less game-changingly essential. Minor glyphs could become more like diluted versions of major glyphs. Or they could become entirely cosmetic. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-352 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:35:50 +0000 Thay 352@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Hard to say, they could start making glyphs that are Level restricted.<br /> At the moment the only restriction is that of when you get the talent, this may change in Cata.</p> <p>Also a lot of the current Glyphs will need to be re-done or removed since they are re-building the talent trees.</p> <p>This gives us the possibility of Glyphs affecting Mastery's as well.<br /> Oh, and of course there are all the new talents from 81-85 that can be brand new Glyphs.</p> <p>Eg Smoke Bomb - Minor Glyph of Smoke - Add green dye into the smoke to make the smoke bomb be green.....</p> <p>This is aside from the new Lv85 off-hand items and other craftables that they can add. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-351 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:05:15 +0000 Shifty 351@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I would just like to start by saying hello to all fellow scribes. Thanks for viewing my post.</p> <p>Now, with the upcoming Cataclysm release, I've been wondering about glyphs in Cata. I'm afraid that the current glyphs will still outweigh the new ones (if they create new ones), keeping the market for glyphs the same, which is good for some servers and worse for others.</p> <p>I don't think Blizzard would make the new glyphs OP, making them a definate need, maybe they would, who knows? How do you guys see Inscription in Cataclysm? Rare glyphs maybe? EPIC GLYPHS? </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/inscription-add-on#post-283 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:12:38 +0000 jetah 283@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>ok, there is a great mod for professions. Advanced Trade Skill Window, avail on curse, can tell you from the pigments -&gt; final product w/o much aggravation. it's only limitation is it will not tell you the herbs needed to make the ink. also a window can be enabled to popup while at the bank to pull your items from the bank so you can make whatever you wanted to make. this mod has the ability to queue multiple items across multiple characters, then makes a list at the AH for easy searching.</p> <p>and also makes the window wider (similar to some of the quest addons). </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/inscription-add-on#post-238 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:31:24 +0000 North 238@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I have had a similar experience - the crafting list is huge and the display window is small. I wish there was a streamlined way to move from herbs &gt; pigments &gt; inks &gt; final product. </p> <p>Right now I either work the entire process in reverse, or simply have all the necessary inks pre-made in the bank (my current solution). Although I also have an alchemist so would prefer to leave my mats as herbs, useful to both professions. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/inscription-add-on#post-237 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:18:25 +0000 chikchik 237@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>So I took up Inscription on the first day of the 3.0 release and power-leveled to 350 and discovered a minor glyph.<br /> The next day I took an alt to Lvl 75 and discovered a minor glyph.<br /> I've been faithfully discovering minors every day (some overlap but so what). All the glyphs go to the AH and sales have been good. I try to keep 3 of each glyph up for auction at all times.</p> <p>Needing herbs in vast quantities and having them be cheaper on the Alliance side than Horde, I decided to open another store in Ironforge. I had previously set up toons in IF and Gadgetzan to pass mats to my Horde characters. I then sent 3 of each minor glyph to my Alliance AH toon. Sales on the Alliance AH are even better than the Horde side.</p> <p>On Wed, 11/12, I took my main to Northrend and power-leveled to 385 for the Northrend Inscription Research and discovered a major glyph. I've been faithfully discovering majors with this toon every day.</p> <p>So now my problem is time. Every morning I do an inventory check of my Horde and Alliance AH's, decide which glyphs have sold out, have one of my Horde toons make 3x of those glyphs and mail them out or transfer them through Gadgetzan. But now we're talking about 50 different minor glyphs and 5 majors.</p> <p>I need an addon that will 1) list the glyphs that I have up on the AH (Armory add-on does this very nicely) 2) compares that list to the list of discovered minor and major glyphs that I want to keep up on the AH and 3) generate a list of glyphs to make; # for the IF AH and # for the Org AH. I need to be able to edit the list to be made to eliminate those that are going for under XX gold.</p> <p>I have no experience writing UI's but it seems like all the information is there, being stored by other addons that I have. I just need to get them to talk to each other and then let me know what they said. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/milling-bug-issue#post-207 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:51:57 +0000 Kuradora 207@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I had this same problem, but I had just wizzed up to the 300's in a mere few hours. I was having the problem with a stack of 15 felweed, which was making it impossible to mill any of the felweed in my bags. Annoyed, I assumed it was the same thing as with JC - after so many stacks of the same thing, you have to wait a certain amount of time to be able to use that particular kind again. So I did the ssame thing I do with JC. I mailed them to an alt, got a different kind of herb from my mailbox, and went through about a dozen or more stacks of something else before I tried the felweed again. first time it didn't work, so I did some more stacks, and after a while the felweed went through. I'm wondering if it's a certain amount of time you have to wait, or a certain number of other milling/crafting you have to do, though of course it's possible that it is, like you say, a bug waiting to be fixed. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/how-to-track-known-minor-inscriptions#post-204 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:26:08 +0000 Yoco 204@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p><cite>Pithian <a href="http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/how-to-track-known-minor-inscriptions#post-198" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>I am having the same problem too. I am going to post this on the Blizzard forums. Maybe if enough of us do this, Blizzard may think about adding a drop down in the Inscription trade skill window that only shows &lt;Class&gt; in in tab and &lt;Major/Minor/Created&gt; in the other. That would help quite a lot for me.</p></blockquote> <p>Good suggestion indeed. Figuring out a full list of which minors I have discovered, or to answer questions like "what minor shaman glyphs can you make?" is quite time consuming right now. And making that second dropdown in the interface actually useful would be welcome. </p>