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El's Professions - WoW Guides » Tag: herbs - Recent Posts http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/tags/herbs Discussion about professions in World of Warcraft. en-US Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:17:48 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.3 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/search.php Sypin on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-30 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:44:08 +0000 Sypin 30@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Runeforging is not a profession, it's a class skill. So DKs will still be able to have 2 other professions. sidereal on "Pomaces" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/pomaces#post-27 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:00:18 +0000 sidereal 27@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Because I love to theorycraft, I constructed a few possible Pomace progressions using herb lists from WoW's main site. The first grouping I went with the basic, "In groupings of 4" criteria I've seen with the other pomaces and read from information posted in the beta forums. It makes alot of sense this way, but I think it's too simplistic. Besides, I can imagine blizzard making it painfully hard to level from 310-375 like blacksmithing was (hopefully they don't though). <ul>Alabaster:</ul> Peacebloom Silverleaf Earthroot Mageroyal <ul>Dusky:</ul> Briarthorn Swifthistle* Stranglekelp Bruiseweed <ul>Emerald:</ul> Wild Steelbloom Grave Moss Kingsblood Liferoot <ul>Golden:</ul> Fadeleaf Goldthorn Khadgar's Whisker Wintersbite <ul>+:</ul> Firebloom 205 open Purple Lotus 210 near ruins Arthas' Tears 220 open Sungrass 230 open <ul>+++:</ul> Blindweed 235 near water Ghost Mushroom 245 caves Gromsblood 250 open Golden Sansam 260 open <ul>++++:</ul> Dreamfoil 270 open Mountain Silversage 280 cliffs Plaguebloom 285 open Icecap 290 cliffs <ul>+++++:</ul> Felweed 300 open Dreaming Glory 315 cliffs Terocone 325 near trees Ragveil 325 open <ul>++++++:</ul> Flame Cap 335 open Ancient Lichen 340 dungeon Netherbloom 350 open Nightmare Vine 365 open Mana Thistle 375 open Like I said, this is a rather simplistic approach to it. I left intact some of the herbalism harvesting rating reqs to demonstrate how for the most part the herbs share some kind of similarity. I left Mana Thistle detached because most final throws in a profession require a strange top tier resource. Things like wildvine, heart of the wild, and fel lotus were omitted based on their scarcity. If anything, I think the final 25 points will be leveled by combining inks (possibly) or using primals in the process. My second school of though is that future pomaces will be categorized based on mill ratings. This has been removed from a Beta posting (if there are inaccuracies with my ratings vs El's ratings, I apologize ahead of time). Groupings based on Mill rating: -Gromsblood 175 -Ghost Mushroom 175 -Blindweed 175 -Sungrass 175 -Arthas' Tears 175 -Purple Lotus 175 -Firebloom 175 Icecap 225 -Plaguebloom 225 -Mountain Silversage 225 -Dreamfoil 225 -Golden Sansam 225 Mana Thistle 275 -Nightmare Vine 275 -Netherbloom 275 -Ancient Lichen 275 -Ragveil 275 -Terocone 275 I assume this might be the more likely of the two, especially considering that the low level pomaces are grouped by herbs with the same mill rating. Like I said prior, this is just conjecture. Stock at your own risk :) el on "Pomaces" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/pomaces#post-23 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:36:08 +0000 el 23@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ As far as I can tell, higher level Pomaces are not yet implemented in beta. Certainly there is nothing in-game, and no obvious reference in the game files. However, there is a perfect correlation between Milling skill and Pomace produced for those that we know... But the whole approach adopted to Inscription by Blizzard continues to take many people by surprise. For an entirely new feature, it is remarkably absent from the beta builds. Even the hacked glyph data (no glyphs are available in the beta game yet) needs to be read very carefully since the whole basis of applying and swapping glyphs is still being redesigned. And this week we learn that much of this will all be going live in "the coming weeks" (although both Tigole and Wryxian have since added some caveats to that to suggest that testing will last a while longer, and the contents of patch 3.0 are not yet set in stone). sidereal on "Pomaces" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/pomaces#post-22 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:46:59 +0000 sidereal 22@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ I've noticed there's information pertaining to the first 4 different pomaces that are millable - my question: Has anyone uncovered any additional pomaces? I'm trying to stock up for the content patch (about 7 stacks of every millable herb, with extras in the dirt cheap bracket), and I'm realy just curious what herbs I should consider purchasing. I have a strong feeling felweed might be one of those cheap pomace herbs... Arbaah on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-21 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:12:58 +0000 Arbaah 21@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ As you decide how many herbs you are going to store (and what you may buy to level Inscriptions after WotLK is released) - keep in mind: Because Alchemy Mastery will give a 30% bonus to all potions, I suspect many people will use Alchemy as one of the professions for their DeathKnights (the other profession will be Rune Forging). SO - this means there are gonna be a LOT of DKs leveling Alchemy -- and that could have a serious impact on the market (i.e., herbs in demand, potions/flasks/elixirs under foot everywhere!!). Frankly - I already have a 2nd Mule, with her own guild and 2 tabs (so far) in the Guild Vault. And it's about 2/3 full of herbs already. And YES - I am stocking Peacebloom, Silverleaf, Mage Royal, Stranglekelp, etc. - along with herbs all-the-way up the Alchemy chain. And YES - I have been buying most of them (buy the herbs when they are cheap - spend the on-line time doing dailies -- much more productive use of time). I expect to be power-leveling both Inscriptions on my main and Alchemy on my DK - so I'm gonna use up a lot of herbs - QUICK. And besides -- if demand is up -- I can sell what I don't use ... at a profit. britt88 on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-20 Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:13:04 +0000 britt88 20@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Thanks so much for the guide! It's looking great! I'm saving 15 stacks of each herb to ower level this prof. Any more advice .. keep it coming! P.S if the lovely pally who pointed me to this site uses it, Thanks so much! Dacean on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-19 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:28:57 +0000 Dacean 19@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <cite> Assuming even volumes of herbs for each skill point, the hardest part of the Inscription levelling curve is logically from higher-level pre-Outland zones: Herbs there are well spread out, but you cannot use a flying mount to collect them quickly. This is true for most of the high level pre-bc herbs, but not all. I just make a Hellfire Penn. run frequently. Along with a couple stacks of Felweed and a few Dreaming Glory I usually get half a stack of Mountain Silversage, Dreamfoil and Golden Sansam each.</cite> el on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-18 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:39:34 +0000 el 18@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ I suspect <a href="http://www.wow-europe.com/screenoftheday/screenoftheday/10806-28.jpg">this screenshot</a> on the official site shows someone fishing from the infamous <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/school_of_fish.html">School of Fish</a>. I guess that would make it an officially recognised feature... The effort required to get there probably doesn't warrant the (reported) infinite supply of Peacebloom gained: A couple of loops round any of the starting zones will give enough herbs to get started on Inscription. Assuming even volumes of herbs for each skill point, the hardest part of the Inscription levelling curve is logically from higher-level pre-Outland zones: Herbs there are well spread out, but you cannot use a flying mount to collect them quickly. Gummo on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-17 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:39:15 +0000 Gummo 17@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ To tie this in with fishing, I wonder if this will get Blizzard to remove the "school of fish" that can be fished for peacebloom above Northshire Valley. Blazara on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-16 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:02:55 +0000 Blazara 16@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Aha, thank you then. Time to start farming the lower ones ;]] el on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-15 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:48:41 +0000 el 15@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ I agree. As far as I can tell, each stack of 5 herbs averages 2.5 of the appropriate Pomace... and that's as complex as it gets. If that remains, Inscribers will always be looking to buy the cheapest herbs in each bracket (set of herbs producing each Pomace). This should create an interesting market dynamic with Alchemy: Assume Alchemists continue to need specific herbs, and the overall amount of herb gathering increases to supply the 2 professions. The traditionally "cheap" herbs will increase in value, while the traditionally expensive herbs decrease in value. The spread of (auction house) prices at each level will get narrower, so it becomes less important whether Herbalists can find rare herb nodes: The game will reward the act of gathering more evenly. vchan000 on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-14 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:19:03 +0000 vchan000 14@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ I didn't see any difference in the amount of procs for the low level herbs vs the higher level ones, but I wasn't specifically looking for it either. I'll break down further bouts of milling into how many I get for each type of herb to see if there's a trend. Of the 230 herbs milled in the above batch, I believe it broke down to something like 140 peacebloom, 30 silverleaf, 25 earthroot and 35 mageroyal. Just remember when stocking up on herbs for milling, do it in lots of 5 of the same herb. 5 silverleaf is millable. 3 silverleaf, 1 earthroot and 1 mageroyal is not. Blazara on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-13 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:03:44 +0000 Blazara 13@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Guide looks great, hope it continues <3 But i was wondering, how much of each herb do you think we'd actually need? As you say all the following herb's can be used to make Alabaster Pomace; * Bloodthistle * Earthroot * Mageroyal * Peacebloom * Silverleaf With cost saving (If i'm too lazy to farm)or simple time saving (farming in one area) in mind, would it be simpler to just farm/buy the lower 3 of the 5 (Silverleaf, Peacebloom and Earthroot) and use them for the Pomace, or do the higher ones have a better proc rate for creating 3 ? Just curios, as it could save a lot of gold and time, buying the lowest of the groups for each ink, if there is no difference. vchan000 on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-12 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:50:51 +0000 vchan000 12@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ My herbalist just copied over so I've been experimenting with this so I know exactly what I should be farming for live when it comes out. My numbers so far; Totals: 270 herbs (silverleaf, peacebloom, earthroot, mageroyal), 77 light parchment (bought) [total current skill: 119] 20 silver ink = 20 silverleaf 20 ivory ink = 20 peacebloom [skill 1-34] 114 Alabaster Pomace = 230 milled herbs 114 Moonglow Ink = 114 Alabaster Pomace [skill 35-60] 40 Bleached parchment = 40 moonglow ink, 40 light parchment [skill 61-90] 37 mysterious tarot = 74 moonglow ink, 37 light parchment [skill 91-119] *In 37 tarot I managed to create 2 ace of rogues cards **Please note, I'm looking for the most efficient way to level the profession, so several recipes have been skipped in this progress, including the scroll of recall, which is very neat in and of itself. I have every intentions of going back and making some with extras out of the levelling run. Dacean on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-11 Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:34:30 +0000 Dacean 11@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ A lot less than I thought it would be. I have dozens of stacks for each herb level. I guess I will be making some serious cash come release. :) Thanks for the quick reply. el on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-10 Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:31:40 +0000 el 10@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Milling averages 2.5 Pomace per 5 herbs. 1 Pomace makes 1 Ink, and a typical inscribed item uses 1 ink. So each item made requires an average of 2 herbs. However, making inks will often give a skill-up, and the ink can then be used to make another item that gives a skill-up: Each pair of herbs might give 2 skill-ups. Ivory/Silver Inks use 1 herb per Ink direct, but everything made by those inks requires 2 inks, so the result is similar. Since the most efficient skill-up recipes often go yellow or green (especially inks), the result is between 1 and 1.5 herbs per Inscription skill-up, probably closer to 1.5. Still, that's only around 7 stacks of herbs per 100 skill points. To put it in context, if you level Herbalism and Inscription at the same time, you will have herbs to spare. That's just a rough first calculation. More detail will follow once the profession is fully implemented. Dacean on "Herb amounts" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/herb-amounts#post-9 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:13:11 +0000 Dacean 9@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Hi El! Your guide is looking great so far. I was just wondering about how many stacks of each herb level you used. I have quite a few herbs saved up, just want an idea of how many it burns.