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El's Professions - WoW Guides » Forum: Inscription - Recent Topics http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/forum/inscription Discussion about professions in World of Warcraft. en-US Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:09:52 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/search.php Gummo on "Scroll of Recall "lost" locations?" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/scroll-of-recall-lost-locations#post-334 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:00:32 +0000 Gummo 334@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Oddly enough, there doesn't seem to be any source that has a canonical list of where you can randomly teleport if you use a Scroll of Recall that is too low. Here's about the only list I could find, from wowhead, for horde (numbers are number of occurrences out of 16 tries): 3 - Ground - Undercity - Staircase opposite of BE translocation orb 3 - Ground - Stonard Center of outpost 3 - Ground - Barrens Xroads - South of Tower 2 - Ground - Tanaris - Inside Gadgetzan Arena 2 - Sky Death /w Safefall - Swamp of Sorrows - Misty Reed Strand right on waterline 1 - Ground - Stranglethorn Vale - Booty Bay's Cannon Pier 1 - Ground - Thunder Bluff - Northern Part of Central Bluff 1 - Ground - Tarren Mill Orchard Ground My personal list, without counts, for a level 43 Alliance using the lowest Scroll of Recall: Stranglethorn Vale - Booty Bay's Cannon Pier (same as horde) Tanaris - Inside Gadgetzan Arena (same as horde) Dun Morogh - in one of the buildings at Steelgrill's Depot Darkshore, in Auberdine Elwynn Forest - in basement of Lion's Pride Inn Hinterlands - in Aerie Peak Dustwallow Marsh - Theramore Isle, by the tower I haven't had a sky death teleport. I also assume the next-higher Scroll of Recall will have more/different locations. Can anyone help add to this list? One more bit of information -- I don't know if you can teleport to locations you have not yet explored; for the Halloween event, I got all the flight paths with inns around Azeroth. Shifty on "Cataclysm Inscription" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/cataclysm-inscription#post-351 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:05:15 +0000 Shifty 351@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ I would just like to start by saying hello to all fellow scribes. Thanks for viewing my post. Now, with the upcoming Cataclysm release, I've been wondering about glyphs in Cata. I'm afraid that the current glyphs will still outweigh the new ones (if they create new ones), keeping the market for glyphs the same, which is good for some servers and worse for others. I don't think Blizzard would make the new glyphs OP, making them a definate need, maybe they would, who knows? How do you guys see Inscription in Cataclysm? Rare glyphs maybe? EPIC GLYPHS? Tintin on "Is the inscription profession dead" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/is-the-inscription-profession-dead#post-339 Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:56:32 +0000 Tintin 339@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ I chose inscription mainly because i like the idea of writing and making stuff. However ive found that it really doesn't make you a very good living. My thoughts for the reason is that fellow inscribers particularly on my server think that they must sell there wares at below cost. By below cost i mean the cost of obtaining mats at AH prices and paper at friendly rep. We are all the first to complain that inscription is now a dead profession but the way i see it if we all facted in a realistic cost price and added your proffit magin of say 30% as just a figure then we might all start to benifit again. The other reason i have joined this forum is i thought it would be a good was to form a inscription cartell lol. Well the way i see it if we all posted the going rate of AH mats at our various AH then we could all work out the cost price and work out a recommended sale price as a starting point. Then if fellow inscribers wanted to add more proffit to the item it would be a matter for them and allow a little compertion. Just my thoughts. Kind regards Neko on "When you have all the Glyphs available" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/when-you-have-all-the-glyphs-available#post-343 Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:48:47 +0000 Neko 343@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Is there any message that tells you when you have all the glyphs that are available to you using research or reading the Glyph books. I would like to have something like an achievment crashendoe that say, you now know all the glyphs that are now available. Is there maybe an addon that tells us this Thank you Neko vladdy on "Book of Glyph Mastery Resarch - Typo" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/book-of-glyph-mastery-resarch-typo#post-329 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:42:08 +0000 vladdy 329@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ On your description of Book of Glyph Mastery Research, you have this line Each Book of Glyph Mastery can be read (used) once to discover a single new minor glyph. Glyphs discovered using a Book of Glyph Mastery can only be discovered from such a book. But in fact, you discover a new Major Glyph, not Minor. thunderchild on "Icy Pigment" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/icy-pigment#post-243 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:25:59 +0000 thunderchild 243@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ In the last three days, I've found the drop rate of this item to be almost vanishingly small from milling. 110 Icethorn - 7 95 Lichbloom - 6 80 Adder's tongue - 6 40 Goldclover - 3 Has anyone else noticed a decrease in the propensity of this item to be found in milling?? Also, the northrend card skill up has been less than stellar. -thunderchild mider on "Mod that shows undiscovered glyphs both minor and Northrend" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/mod-that-shows-undiscovered-glyphs-both-minor-and-northrend#post-323 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:46:07 +0000 mider 323@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ I could have sworn I saw a link in the guide to leveling inscription to such a mod here but for some reason I can't track it down and I am unable to find such a mod that list the Glyph's you have yet to discover via research. Is there such a mod that lists undiscovered glyphs working with 3.1 as I seem to be overlooking anything on Curse and googling isn't point me in the right direction. Found several that give a quick tool tip as to what's need to make the glyph but nothing that tracks glyphs you haven't discovered. Granted if this can't be done due to Blizzard's restrictions I guess I am out of luck jetah on "PTR 3.1" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-299 Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:50:39 +0000 jetah 299@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ logged in (w/o addons, which suck) and did my research... and nothing. anyone get any discoverys while doing research on the PTR? skaarak on "No discovery of a Minor Glyph!!?!" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/no-discovery-of-a-minor-glyph#post-205 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:02:06 +0000 skaarak 205@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ So this morning I did the discovery of a Minor Glyph and I got a Weapon Vellium (woo....) but then no discovery. I had read that you always discover a new one until there are no more, but it didn't seem to do that for me this morning. I only have 4 minor glyphs so I found it quite annoying not to get another one. Any one else run into this? Bankcow on "Issues with Inscription and value for investment" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/issues-with-inscription-and-value-for-investment#post-246 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:55:36 +0000 Bankcow 246@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Hi. First off thank you for the wonderful guide. It's beautifully done and was so helpful to me in playing catchup leveling inscription over the past couple of days. I followed the guide pretty closely with the exceptions of going an added 5 points up on Outland herbs and making more vellums where possible as I am also an enchanter. What drove me to do inscription, although I am a Paladin and cannot use the books was the need for vellum and the lack of supply as well as high cost of what there was to be had. It's a wonderful idea but the cost of making the vellums runs high enough and the supply of them is so limited on the AH (days go by with zero Armor Vellum IIs anywhere near affordable and at that just a few of them) that I had to do inscription to sell enchants basically. As this point in the game almost all the majors go for nothing. It's not even worth listing them save a couple that seem to still be in demand, mainly for paladins and DKs. Otherwise, I rapidly became frustrated by being undercut down to 10s of silver to a point I listed everything I'd made leveling at 1s 1c just to give them away vs throw them away. It makes me wonder what will happen down the road as who would bother making inscriptions for no profit? Therefore, at some point supply will dry up I suppose fueling a brief spike in prices and this could ebb and flow forever with no real reason to ever bother. Dual specs down the road will cause this too with perhaps a little more consistency but basically, major glyphs are not worth making or selling most of them. I hope Blizzard sees this and is discussing the issue in design meetings because it needs fixing. Minors as supply has increased with the foolish allowance for lowbie alt teams to farm discoveries have also plummeted to the point where it's hardly worth bothering for many of those. Obviously while on a slower track, they are headed where majors are now, the bottom of the sea. Next we have bop books many classes including my own cannot use and unfortunately cannot sell nor make for alts. I'd have been happy even to see them crafted with an account bound tag so I could at least give them to my caster alts but no... Then there is the various Tarot cards. I thought this is a very cool and fun idea and enjoyed making some of the lower decks I have not yet had an alt use. Given the value of certain of the card decks I can understand them being somewhat expensive and chance to make however they are so expensive to make given chance that for the average scribe it's kind of like playing the lottery which I suppose if you have disposable income to burn is fun but not something I'd invest in seriously thinking I'd make any real profit for cost over time. Thus far listing out what I can do with inscription, there is nothing that generates profit or is especially useful to me that I could not attain cheaply without it, aside of the choked supply of vellum that caused me to take it up. If I paid AH prices on what little vellum there is for Weapon, Weapon II and Armor II particularly for twink enchants that still sell well, I could not list the enchants at prices worth paying - people see them and go find and an enchanter with mats in hand instead. I love this. You get people who think you should grind rep for hours for old twink enchants and then want you to make them for a "tip" of 5 to 10g. Since the introduction of vellum, the only way I do enchants is by scrolls on the AH or bust. If more enchanters did this we'd be ok but they don't of course. I'm not looking to gouge people either. But as I asked someone the other day, what percent over base cost to craft something is a fair profit, taking into account the enormous expense the crafter has paid up front to even be able to make it? The only other game I have any real experience with was EverQuest for years and there it generally went 50 to 100 percent markup over base cost with a tendency toward 50 percent or even a little less on the most expensive things. In the case I know best, enchanting, I think 50% over cost is fair and reasonable when one considers the huge cost to level it and the cost of the various rods, the solo farmed enchant drops, the old and newer rep enchants earned, and worst of all the ones kept behind raiding, you had to raid kara in TBC, etc. or you simply didn't get the good ones people most wanted for weapons then. This is not to mention the primals farmed or purchased for certain of them, or the hit and miss DE farming of the AH when you can find greens low enough to justify doing it and get them before the other 100 chanters on your server doing so, do. I know.... QQ some more. The thing is, I don't really mind dealing with most of that except I detest good enchants forcing one to raid in a game that is otherwise friendly about playing how you choose to. I raided hardcore elsewhere. I am done. I don't want to do that anymore for the time it takes. So, at the end of the day I can get vellum that still costs me a fair amount of money to make and has to be added to the cost of enchants I make which immediately makes me less competitive than enchanters leveling for free and for tips, etc. And I get nice shoulder enchants but at a rather high cost to put it mildly. I cannot craft anything of any commodity value even, never mind more. While other crafting professions can make epic armor that sells for all outdoors, epic guns, etc. I basically am at least able to sell my other profession's products on the AH and some should enchants that really while nice, I could live without vs rep ones. Correct me with clear information showing how wrong I am please? I would like to be wrong about this but I am thinking in its present state, I am not. While I find crafting fun I am increasingly starting to think that it remains a huge time and money sink and little more with rare exceptions such as being "in" during the first weeks of something or being able to craft some high cost item that sells with a decent profit margin. For those who just have to min/max it's another chore on the path to maximal glory I guess. I couldn't be bothered because I know when I am killing mobs the few more points to stats on my shoulders is not going to make or break me ever. If it did, I might as well go play the Sims at that level of ineptitude. If I had half a brain I would drop inscription and enchanting and gather ores and herbs and cooldowns on smelting daily for huge profits and cheaply (for time spent) buy from the poor souls crafting whatever I want. I have a good mind to abandon ship and do this. It's a shame too because Blizzard's implementation of crafting is really good and its fun to do. However, there's no real value on return when you take a good hard look at it. I mean right now, today. Not during the first week. The party is officially over. vchan000 on "Milling Data" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/milling-data#post-35 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:26:58 +0000 vchan000 35@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Here's a listing of my milling data so far, including the new changes on the patch as of 8/30 (reused alabaster numbers from previous post in herb amounts) 230 herbs (Peacebloom, Silverleaf, Earthroot, Mageroyal) 114 Alabaster Pigment 80 herbs (Briarthorn, Swiftthistle, Bruiseweed, Stranglekelp) 52 Dusky Pigment 14 Verdant Pigment 95 herbs (Steelbloom, Kingsblood, Grave Moss, Liferoot) 52 Golden Pigment 11 Burnt Pigment 115 herbs (Fadeleaf, Goldthorn, Khadgar's Whisker, Wintersbite) 58 Emerald Pigment 13 Indigo Pigment 135 herbs (Firebloom, Purple Lotus, Arthas' Tears, Sungrass, Blindweed, Ghost Mushroom, Gromsblood) 70 Violet Pigment 11 Ruby Pigment 55 herbs (Dreamfoil, Golden Sansam, Mountain Silversage, Plaguebloom) 28 Silvery Pigment 6 Sapphire Pigment No data yet on whats used as ingredients for which beyond some inks, most of the glyphs added had obviously bugged/not yet implemented ingredients jetah on "According to ARL" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/according-to-arl#post-290 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:48:33 +0000 jetah 290@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ according to ackis recipe list i have all known glyphs (with a few that arent in his/her db). I started inscription when the patch hit and may have missed a day or 2 w/o doing a research. i am curious if 3.1 will introduce new glyphs. kinda hope they do. guess ill find out when 3.1 goes on ptr and i get my toon copied there. jetah Tantoroth on "Help! I'm maxed out and the gold train is gone!" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/help-im-maxed-out-and-the-gold-train-is-gone#post-263 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:38:11 +0000 Tantoroth 263@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Ok El, I trust what you say, and I really think this should be addressed somewhere. Are Inscriptions doomed to being a self serving profession? Granted, the sholder glyphs are the best in the game, but only for the individual, the decks are still good sellers for awhile, but the odds are so wildly uncontroled it is hard to get anything you want (I think its something like a 35% chance to get the same deck, and .5% chance of the correct card?). My experiance being one of the slower leveled, yet still "top" inscriptionist in my server (horde, Bronzebeard), and felt the need to put my concerns out there and see what I get in response. So, we are to farm hundreds of herbs a day (w/o a daily quest, that needs to be fixed), mill herbs which have a low chance of droping the pigments we need, only to get a marginally minimal chance to get the card we need? Am I missing something here? So far I have dumped approx. 500g in training alone, and spent 2 weeks doing nothing but collecting herbs for 8 hours a afternoon. (catching up after I speed leveled to 80) I haven't made a dime so far, I missed out on the big "surge" of glyphs people were buying, and I'm wanting to know the payoff, you know? Don't get me wrong, it feels very rewarding to power level this skill, I am proud of myself for sticking it out, and getting to where I am.... But my charater that is my inscriptionist is a holy priest, and you stop crafting off-hands at 78, what is that about? I mean, there isn't anymore training out there, our patterns are "found" like JC, Tailoring, enchants, BS, and all the other "crafting" proffesions... so WTF? Where is our "Moonsroud robe" or "motorcycle", I mean we don't get anything but stupid random cards that you can maybe squeese 1 out a day. Sorry for the rant, but I know you all feel the pain. Thanks for reading!! - Lyricraine (80 BE, holy priest, Bronzebeard) -only one w/ my name in the game actually. chikchik on "Inscription Add-on" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/inscription-add-on#post-237 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:18:25 +0000 chikchik 237@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ So I took up Inscription on the first day of the 3.0 release and power-leveled to 350 and discovered a minor glyph. The next day I took an alt to Lvl 75 and discovered a minor glyph. I've been faithfully discovering minors every day (some overlap but so what). All the glyphs go to the AH and sales have been good. I try to keep 3 of each glyph up for auction at all times. Needing herbs in vast quantities and having them be cheaper on the Alliance side than Horde, I decided to open another store in Ironforge. I had previously set up toons in IF and Gadgetzan to pass mats to my Horde characters. I then sent 3 of each minor glyph to my Alliance AH toon. Sales on the Alliance AH are even better than the Horde side. On Wed, 11/12, I took my main to Northrend and power-leveled to 385 for the Northrend Inscription Research and discovered a major glyph. I've been faithfully discovering majors with this toon every day. So now my problem is time. Every morning I do an inventory check of my Horde and Alliance AH's, decide which glyphs have sold out, have one of my Horde toons make 3x of those glyphs and mail them out or transfer them through Gadgetzan. But now we're talking about 50 different minor glyphs and 5 majors. I need an addon that will 1) list the glyphs that I have up on the AH (Armory add-on does this very nicely) 2) compares that list to the list of discovered minor and major glyphs that I want to keep up on the AH and 3) generate a list of glyphs to make; # for the IF AH and # for the Org AH. I need to be able to edit the list to be made to eliminate those that are going for under XX gold. I have no experience writing UI's but it seems like all the information is there, being stored by other addons that I have. I just need to get them to talk to each other and then let me know what they said. Nick255 on "Level up inscription before finishing minor research?" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/level-up-inscription-before-finishing-minor-research#post-268 Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:08:09 +0000 Nick255 268@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Is it a good idea to wait to level up inscription until you have learned all the minor glyphs at your current level or is it better to increase your inscription skill whenever you can? el on "Minor Reseach List" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/minor-reseach-list#post-194 Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:04:29 +0000 el 194@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ For reference, I've added a list of all known <a href="http://www.elsprofessions.com/inscription/minor_research.html">Minor glyph research</a>. If the price of minor glyphs is still reasonable on your server, consider rolling an alt, just to learn Inscription up to skill 75, which can then discover minor glyphs. mmomike on "Glyphs not docmented here" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/glyphs-not-docmented-here#post-258 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:01:18 +0000 mmomike 258@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ I discovered Glyph of Mind Soothe However the mouse over tool tip says Glyph of Shadow Use: While in Shadowform, your spell critical strikes increase your spell power by 10% of your Spirit for 10 sec. Requires Level 20 Classes: Priest Major Glyph Glyph of Shadow Reagents: Ink of the Sea, Resilient Parchment Inscription: Glyph of Mind Soothe Deathxtreme on "Tarot Cards" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/tarot-cards#post-163 Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:02:23 +0000 Deathxtreme 163@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Question about the Tarot Cards: It's stated that with the inscription profession, you can create any darkmoon card including those cards from Classic WoW, The Burning Crusade & Wrath of the Lichking. Does this include the ace of the decks? Currently, as I understand it, the Ace of each deck is only dropped from specific monsters (i.e. The Beast drops the Ace of Beasts for the Beasts Deck (a Classic WoW reward)) or from any end boss in any level 70 instance (regular or heroic). If the ace is able to be formed, then that will dramatically change the value of this ability as a money maker since I know that the Ace of Beasts is especially desirable (and rare as UBRS is not soloable). Also, is there an equal chance among all of the cards being formed? My understanding is that with the classic darkmoon decks, the 2-4 were rare world drops and the 5-8 were found mainly in high level instances. I was wondering what exactly you've seen from your inscription results. Kazuko.Yoko on "Hunters..?" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/hunters#post-235 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:59:03 +0000 Kazuko.Yoko 235@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Is it worth it for a hunter to do inscription? Mrpooter on "Advice on dropping profession" http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/advice-on-dropping-profession#post-224 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:16:54 +0000 Mrpooter 224@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Hi I have not really paid attention to my professions (lvl 70 Alliance mage) but I do have fully skilled Skinning, Apart from farming Cobra scales which sometimes sell for 25g sometimes don't sell at all, this seemed more useful when I was lower level 'cos you skinned what you had killed. My other skill was Enchantment which was still so low level I've barely started it. This has now been replaced by Inscription which I'm really enjoying starting to level up. Should I drop Skinning as well and take up herbalism, thus providing me with Potions AND the ingredients for Inscription? Thanks, MrP.