http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ Discussion about professions in World of Warcraft. en-US Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:00:28 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/scroll-of-recall-lost-locations#post-336 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:29:02 +0000 Gummo 336@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I've now used dozens of scrolls, and I've arrived at no new areas. I've also never gotten a 'sky death' teleport, so I think that has been removed, or it only triggers if you're WAY above level 35. I'll assume Alliance and Horde both have 7 possible destinations, so these lists appear complete.</p> <p>Some of the Horde locations for the level II Lost locations (need to be over level 70 and use a Recall scroll of II) from wowhead:<br /> -High over the lake in Swamp Of Sorrows<br /> -Stuck on a barn roof in Tarren Mill<br /> -In front of Karazhan<br /> -In the middle of Feralas </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/scroll-of-recall-lost-locations#post-335 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:23:14 +0000 el 335@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I'm sure there was a discussion about this during beta testing... but I can't find it. I've also been meaning to test it, but it isn't a terribly easy thing to test, and only 2 or 3 people have ever wanted to know.</p> <p>The data files contain WorldSafeLocs.dbc, which appears to list every map location that a character can arrive at safely - i.e. without falling or immediately aggroing. My guess is that Scroll of Recall failures are based on a subset of that list. It has almost 700 entries, including development-only gibberish. However, the subset is likely determined server-side - all the client needs to be told is "go to location ID". </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/scroll-of-recall-lost-locations#post-334 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:00:32 +0000 Gummo 334@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Oddly enough, there doesn't seem to be any source that has a canonical list of where you can randomly teleport if you use a Scroll of Recall that is too low.</p> <p>Here's about the only list I could find, from wowhead, for horde (numbers are number of occurrences out of 16 tries):</p> <p>3 - Ground - Undercity - Staircase opposite of BE translocation orb<br /> 3 - Ground - Stonard Center of outpost<br /> 3 - Ground - Barrens Xroads - South of Tower<br /> 2 - Ground - Tanaris - Inside Gadgetzan Arena<br /> 2 - Sky Death /w Safefall - Swamp of Sorrows - Misty Reed Strand right on waterline<br /> 1 - Ground - Stranglethorn Vale - Booty Bay's Cannon Pier<br /> 1 - Ground - Thunder Bluff - Northern Part of Central Bluff<br /> 1 - Ground - Tarren Mill Orchard Ground</p> <p>My personal list, without counts, for a level 43 Alliance using the lowest Scroll of Recall:</p> <p>Stranglethorn Vale - Booty Bay's Cannon Pier (same as horde)<br /> Tanaris - Inside Gadgetzan Arena (same as horde)<br /> Dun Morogh - in one of the buildings at Steelgrill's Depot<br /> Darkshore, in Auberdine<br /> Elwynn Forest - in basement of Lion's Pride Inn<br /> Hinterlands - in Aerie Peak<br /> Dustwallow Marsh - Theramore Isle, by the tower</p> <p>I haven't had a sky death teleport. I also assume the next-higher Scroll of Recall will have more/different locations. Can anyone help add to this list?</p> <p>One more bit of information -- I don't know if you can teleport to locations you have not yet explored; for the Halloween event, I got all the flight paths with inns around Azeroth. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/caught-my-sea-tutle#post-333 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:25:00 +0000 Hamacus 333@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Finally got mine last night as well! Somewhere in the 3.5k cast range. In the last week I have won the STV Tourny to finish off my "Salty" title, got the jeweled fishing pole, and caught my turtle mount.</p> <p>Have to give much props to El's for all the tips and info. : ) </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/the-5-ring#post-332 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:37:52 +0000 sistinas 332@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5324/wowscrnshot061809115925.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5324/wowscrnshot061809115925.jpg</a></p> <p>Ssistinas - dreadmaul </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/book-of-glyph-mastery-resarch-typo#post-331 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:06:46 +0000 el 331@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Fixed - thanks. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/icy-pigment#post-330 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:51:19 +0000 vladdy 330@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I seem to get 1 in 5 mills. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/book-of-glyph-mastery-resarch-typo#post-329 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:42:08 +0000 vladdy 329@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>On your description of Book of Glyph Mastery Research, you have this line</p> <p><em>Each Book of Glyph Mastery can be read (used) once to discover a single new minor glyph. Glyphs discovered using a Book of Glyph Mastery can only be discovered from such a book.</em></p> <p>But in fact, you discover a new Major Glyph, not Minor. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/caught-my-sea-tutle#post-328 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:08:58 +0000 Alerek 328@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/alerek/WoWScrnShot_042709_213054.jpg">Joy~</a></p> <p>Took about 4.1k casts, mostly in Grizzly Hills for <a href="http://tinyurl.com/dkmgd7">Glacial Salmon</a> (Thats obviously not ALL of em, just the ones I'm hanging on to for aesthetic value.)</p> <p>...and for those in distress who've been fishing in GH, I found multiplying your total GH catches by .4075 can get within 5 or so of your actual cast &#38; catch number there. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/mod-that-shows-undiscovered-glyphs-both-minor-and-northrend#post-327 Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:56:06 +0000 mider 327@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Would it be ok to say I love you? Thanks, exactly what I was looking for. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-caught-on-ravenholdt-us#post-326 Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:36:32 +0000 Todd 326@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>After about 2500 casts, I finally pulled her up from a steam pool...</p> <p><a href="http://twitpic.com/photos/Toddcraft" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/photos/Toddcraft</a> </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-325 Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:51:26 +0000 North 325@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>So how is inscription post-patch working out for people? </p> <p>I still think this design is a mistake. Right now non-scribes are probably making more than the average scribe by selling Glyph Mastery books at outrageous prices. We're then left learning a random glyph which may make our money back or...not. And really, right now is the only time to hit it big by learning an important glyph before others. And with dual-specs now in-play, the turn-over is going to be slim.</p> <p>Meanwhile book prices will drop over the next several weeks and eventually everyone will know the full glyph list. Blerg.</p> <p>Thoughts? </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/mod-that-shows-undiscovered-glyphs-both-minor-and-northrend#post-324 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:37:12 +0000 Dasvampyr 324@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>u could try Ackis Recipe List.</p> <p><a href="http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/arl.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/arl.aspx</a> </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/mod-that-shows-undiscovered-glyphs-both-minor-and-northrend#post-323 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:46:07 +0000 mider 323@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I could have sworn I saw a link in the guide to leveling inscription to such a mod here but for some reason I can't track it down and I am unable to find such a mod that list the Glyph's you have yet to discover via research. </p> <p>Is there such a mod that lists undiscovered glyphs working with 3.1 as I seem to be overlooking anything on Curse and googling isn't point me in the right direction. Found several that give a quick tool tip as to what's need to make the glyph but nothing that tracks glyphs you haven't discovered. Granted if this can't be done due to Blizzard's restrictions I guess I am out of luck </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-319 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:48:54 +0000 Tayluca 319@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p><cite>Zhivago <a href="http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-318" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Logged on to the PTR late last night (like 4am EST). The Inscription Trainer had recipes for me to train. Northrend Inscription Research allowed the discovery of a Glyph. Minor Inscription did not. Sorry for no screenies, wasn't even thinking since it was late.</p></blockquote> <p>I am maxed Scribe and have all recipes prior to patch. As of Build 9757, the trainer had no new recipes for me to learn nor did I gain any new recipes via Minor nor Major Research. The vendor had recipes upon original release of PTR (forget which ones), one or two I believe, but nothing since then. Perhaps the trainable ones you learned were from then? </p> <p>I did notice a categorization change, where the shoulder glyphs are in your recipe book, they have moved Northrend Inscription there under the "Inscribe" category. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-318 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:43:19 +0000 Zhivago 318@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Logged on to the PTR late last night (like 4am EST). The Inscription Trainer had recipes for me to train. Northrend Inscription Research allowed the discovery of a Glyph. Minor Inscription did not. Sorry for no screenies, wasn't even thinking since it was late. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-317 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:46:37 +0000 el 317@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I guess they expect few people to farm it on patch day: On the PTR, I needed to clear the entire camp several times before it dropped. With more than a few people farming, it will become impossible. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/disgusting-oozeling-addon#post-316 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:06:12 +0000 Dasvampyr 316@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>well, U could try Mobinfo.</p> <p>It will record the number of times U killed any one mob and what they dropped.</p> <p>U can get it from Curse at:</p> <p><a href="http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mobinfo3.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mobinfo3.aspx</a> </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-315 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:16:53 +0000 Zim 315@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I liked this idea, Its a move like patterns drop.<br /> This will take luck or money, but It can provide you with some exclusivity you don´t see now.</p> <p>Zim.<br /> On patch day I will logoff in Silverbrook, Grizzly Hills... patch and login planning to stay until I get my hands on Rituals of the New Moon! </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/disgusting-oozeling-addon#post-314 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:54:26 +0000 llie 314@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Ok... so I've been trying to get the disgusting oozeling pet for quite some time now. I know it's a very low drop rate because of having to find a bag containing it. I'm curious to know if there's any such addon that would record for me how many oozes I've killed and how many bags i receive. I've read posts about farming the oozeling and it looks like some people have exact stats and I've even seen someone mention an addon like that... I looked but I can't find one. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-310 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:06:51 +0000 North 310@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Any idea if the books drop for non-scribes? I'm hoping the AH won't be an option, or else it becomes another dice roll like Nobles cards (ie, money going to the AH seller and the scribe left with random luck on glyph discovery - not unlike using considerable mats and getting a non-Nobles card). </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-309 Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:08:10 +0000 el 309@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>So far I've spent hours farming trying to get one of these items to drop. Conclusion: New glyphs are going to be genuinely rare for a while... </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-308 Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:36:51 +0000 Thay 308@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p><cite>bluspacecow <a href="http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-307" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p><cite>Thay <a href="http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-306" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Okay, althou it just a 'spell at the moment, anyone heard anymore about the<br /> Book of Glyph Mastery?<br /> <a href="http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=64323" rel="nofollow">http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=64323</a></p></blockquote> <p>From the latest patch notes Thay ,<br /> "Added around 50 new glyph recipes. These new recipes can be obtained from Books of Glyph Mastery found as world drops on Northrend monsters. Reading a Book of Glyph Mastery randomly discovers one of the newly-added recipes."<br /> Oh great. Its that Heavy Frostweave bandage book thing all over again. 50 Times !!!!!</p></blockquote> <p>I saw that. Should make things interesting.<br /> Whilst the random learning allows each book be of use, it makes it hard if you are wanted to learn a specific Glyph.<br /> Still as I currently have every Glyph in the game at 70, It was too be expected. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-307 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:50:46 +0000 bluspacecow 307@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p><cite>Thay <a href="http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-306" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Okay, althou it just a 'spell at the moment, anyone heard anymore about the<br /> Book of Glyph Mastery?<br /> <a href="http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=64323" rel="nofollow">http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=64323</a></p></blockquote> <p>From the latest patch notes Thay ,</p> <p>"Added around 50 new glyph recipes. These new recipes can be obtained from Books of Glyph Mastery found as world drops on Northrend monsters. Reading a Book of Glyph Mastery randomly discovers one of the newly-added recipes."</p> <p>Oh great. Its that Heavy Frostweave bandage book thing all over again. 50 Times !!!!! </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-306 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:44:22 +0000 Thay 306@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Okay, althou it just a 'spell at the moment, anyone heard anymore about the<br /> Book of Glyph Mastery?<br /> <a href="http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=64323" rel="nofollow">http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=64323</a> </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-305 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:17:54 +0000 leonal.ee 305@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>In response to Growler's question, I think Dual spec is going to be a huge boon in the short term. Every level 80's got to double up? That's HUGE! Hopefully dual spec will lead to a lot more experimentation which should be good long term business, but it could backfire in the way Growler has mentioned, so we'll have to see. In our favor, it looks like Blizzard has some more glyphs and changes to existing glyphs in the works, so that should encourage some turnover, too. I am cautiosly optimistic.</p> <p>Happy scribing!!</p> <p> Leonal </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-304 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:50:22 +0000 el 304@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I don't see any vendor on the EU English PTR. Perhaps a temporary vendor was added; very briefly? </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/no-discovery-of-a-minor-glyph#post-303 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:43:35 +0000 Sleett 303@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I spoke with a GM last night, you learn new recipies everyday up to a point, then its random chance that you will learn a recipie each day</p> <p>if you read the text on the research it states </p> <p>"creates a random scroll in an effort to discovery new minor glyph recipies"</p> <p>and </p> <p>"compiles your experiences from the day, creating an random assortment of inscribed works. you are very likely to discover new major glyph recipies this way"</p> <p>these are not guarenteed combines for recipes, it just starts out that way and gets worse one day</p> <p>took me a month to get another minor once I stopped getting them once a day, and its been 2 weeks for majors and I know im missing at least 4 recipies. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-302 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:33:35 +0000 Sleett 302@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>supposidly the recipies are bought outside of uldar </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-301 Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:22:30 +0000 Growler 301@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Does anyone else see this patch and dual specs in particular as a bad thing for us scribes? With people being able to switch specs easily that means the demand for glyphs on respecs has just gone. I was hoping that this summonable Lexicon might be decent compensation but it seems that's never going to be implemented. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-300 Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:10:02 +0000 el 300@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>Agreed. Nothing new discovered so far.</p> <p>Worth adding that in the first PTR build, most of the widely reported "new glyphs" were only known to the game client as simple spells: There were no glyph properties set in the data files, so they could not be used as glyphs. In essence, this is still work in progress by the developers. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/ptr-31#post-299 Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:50:39 +0000 jetah 299@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>logged in (w/o addons, which suck) and did my research...</p> <p>and nothing.</p> <p>anyone get any discoverys while doing research on the PTR? </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/issues-with-inscription-and-value-for-investment#post-298 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:01:13 +0000 el 298@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I agree there is currently nothing to separate scribes, except long-term commitment to the profession - several months and a lot of herbs invested in discovering everything.</p> <p>What will be interesting to see is whether a new, more restrictive method of learning glyph recipes emerges. One theory is that the profession trainers at the new Argent Tournament in Icecrown will eventually offer new recipes, but perhaps only in exchange for tokens (such as the new Aspirant's Seal, rewarded from some of the new dailies) or reputation (Silver Covenant rep can now be gained) or something. Otherwise it doesn't make much sense for all those trainers to be camped out on isolated, wind-swept, building site.</p> <p>Of course that still doesn't solve the underlying "low cost+low volume" flaw. </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/issues-with-inscription-and-value-for-investment#post-297 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:15:41 +0000 North 297@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p><cite>el <a href="http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/issues-with-inscription-and-value-for-investment#post-296" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>I must admit that there is a valuable aspect of Inscription that I overlooked.<br /> I originally expected glyphs to be like other items produced by professions: Once the stats of the item go live, the item almost never changes.<br /> Glyphs are not like that. </p></blockquote> <p>That's a neat observation. Although there is still the issue that glyphs are universally known and mats are relatively basic, so costs remain low and the market can be saturated by just one crafter. Do you agree? </p> http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/topic/issues-with-inscription-and-value-for-investment#post-296 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:19:20 +0000 el 296@http://www.elsprofessions.com/forums/ <p>I must admit that there is a valuable aspect of Inscription that I overlooked.</p> <p>I originally expected glyphs to be like other items produced by professions: Once the stats of the item go live, the item almost never changes.</p> <p>Glyphs are not like that. They are linked directly to spells, talents, and overall class balance. Hence we are <a href="http://www.elsprofessions.com/news/31-inscription-changes-test-version-9614.html">now seeing</a> changes to many of the original glyphs. Again.</p> <p>Since class balance is a never-ending process, we can also expect that glyphs will be forever changing. Even without changes to glyphs themselves, changes to talents and spells will change the popularity of glyphs.</p> <p>All this gives the profession an unusual "consumable" quality: Every major patch will see a high proportion of people changing their glyphs.</p> <p>That does not create Alchemy-level demand for glyphs, but it does mean that patch day will always create fresh demand for glyphs. </p>